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Competition Law and Economics in an Age of Partnership and Nationalisation with Andy Meaney

The transport sector has long operated in an environment in which it was assumed that competition was the guarantor of service quality and low prices.

Those assumptions are changing, with local authorities taking control of bus services and the rail network being nationalised.

Does the competition law framework still work for this new environment? I get together with economist and Head of Transport at Oxera Andy Meaney to discuss this question.

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Disability and Transport with Sandra Witzel

Sandra Witzel is comparatively unusual.

Millions of people in Britain are disabled, while hundreds of thousands work in transport. But there isnโ€™t as much overlap, especially at a senior level.

So todayโ€™s discussion is all about Sandraโ€™s perspectives on how transport needs to change to avoid disabling people, and about the sectorโ€™s willingness to make those changes.

Sandraโ€™s day job is at Skedgo, so we finish off with a chat about the status of Mobility-as-a-Service (Maas), now weโ€™re past the peak of the hype cycle.

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Community Engagement with Jasmine Palardy

How do we take the public with us?

Actually, is that the right question? Surely, we should be asking what the public want? And what the public doesnโ€™t yet know it wants.

Our traditional models of consultation and engagement increasingly donโ€™t work. They result in fearful officers bombarded with feedback from a hyper-engaged minority, while the typical resident is unaware that engagement is even taking place.

Is there a better way?

Yes! Jasmine Palardy works with local authorities to engage residents on highways schemes in a totally different way.

Why shouldnโ€™t a local authority highways consultation involve a chicken dinner?

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Nationwide Digital Ticketing with Tina Christensen

This year, Denmark will replace all its public transport ticketing systems with a new fully pay-as-you-go digital app.

Customers will get a transformationally better service; operators get a cost saving. Whatโ€™s not to like?

This is all being delivered by the โ€œRejsekort & Rejseplanโ€, a dedicated organisation devoted to transport ticketing and information.

It is run by Tina Christensen, who tells me all about the culture change necessary to deliver this digital transformation.

Itโ€™s an inspirational story for any country further behind on digital ticketing (which is almost all of them).

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2025 Year in Review

This edition looks back at the themes that emerged from the 2025 episodes of The Freewheeling Podcast.

We look back at inspirational city leaders who have transformed places for the benefit of their residents (and faced death threats for doing so), we revisit the entrepreneurs building great transport products to improve journeys and we discuss the big ideas that came out of last yearโ€™s conversations.

I hope you enjoy this retrospective - thereโ€™s also a preview of the next season at the end.

Thank you so much for listening in 2025 - and, above all, Merry Christmas!

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Being the Best Bus Company with Jane Cole

Todayโ€™s podcast is all about change, but itโ€™s not primarily the sexy kind of technological change that we often think of when we think about change.

Itโ€™s about culture, community and people - but itโ€™s the stuff that makes the difference between success and failure in the transport sector.

Jane Cole, MD of Blackpool Transport, describes the changes sheโ€™s made happen and how empowerment, community focus and investment have transformed the transport service in one of the most deprived towns in Europe.

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Bike Sharing with Caroline Seton

Caroline Seton is the co-founder of the London bike share firm Forest.

Theyโ€™re in unambiguous second place to Lime, the great global bicycle behemoth - but, famously, being second makes a firm try harder.

In todayโ€™s episode, we talk about the challenges of being a shared mobility firm in a municipal environment, the realities of whether cities actually want sustainable transport and the changes she would make to transport policy.

Above all - more bike parking and less car parking please!

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BUDGET SPECIAL with Sir Michael Holden

The Budget has finally been unveiled.

But what does it mean for transport?

In this weekโ€™s episode, I review the budget with Sir Michael Holden, former Chairman of Directly Operated Railways.

We discuss the impact on railway economics (and whether thereโ€™s money for the fares freeze), whether the fuel duty increases will actually happen, the Governmentโ€™s commitment to capital investment and - above all - the need for an overarching strategy.

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The National Bus Strategy Four Years On, with Leon Daniels

The worldโ€™s moving faster than ever, and policy changes with dizzying pace.

It was only in 2021 that the Conservatives issued the most pro-bus policy document probably ever published by a British Government.

The National Bus Strategy was something of a marvel for those of us who want to see better public transport.

It promised a vision of bus lanes in every town, coordinated networks and exceptional quality - all backed up by billions of pounds of new investment.

Today, Leon Daniels and I look back in time to publication day and review how itโ€™s gone since then.

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The North-South Divide with Tom Forth

Data City Founder Tom Forth has been told some extraordinary reasons why the North underperforms the South.

Including that itโ€™s down to Northerners being stupid. Or drunk.

Heโ€™s even read academic papers outlining these theories.

In a fascinating episode of the podcast, we get into a discussion on the real reasons.

They go back a thousand years but transport and our hyper-centralised way of making decisions are right at the heart of it.

I really hope you enjoy listening to this conversation as much as I enjoyed having it.

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Feast-Famine Electrification with Noel Dolphin

Why does electrification in the UK cost so much more than in the rest of Europe?

And why does it always seem to go wrong?

In todayโ€™s episode I talk to Managing Director (UK) of Furrer+Frey, the leading Swiss engineering company about the root case: HM Treasury funding decision-making.

The key question: will it get better?โ€ฆ

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The Great Ghent Renaissance with Filip Watteeuw

๐—™๐—ถ๐—น๐—ถ๐—ฝ ๐—ช๐—ฎ๐˜๐˜๐—ฒ๐—ฒ๐˜‚๐˜„ ๐—ถ๐˜€ ๐˜€๐—ฒ๐—ป๐—ถ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐—ฑ๐—ฒ๐—ฝ๐˜‚๐˜๐˜† ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐˜†๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐—ถ๐—ป ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐—ฐ๐—ถ๐˜๐˜† ๐—ผ๐—ณ ๐—š๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—ป๐˜, and the Alderman responsible for transport and mobility policy.

Todayโ€™s episode is a masterclass in the art of transport changemaking: the focus on experimentation, clear strategy and the need for urgency.

He also highlights the power of storytelling, the limitations of data and highlights that, despite the death threats, the Circulation Plan helped him increase his majority at the next election.

Come with me to Belgium and see just what a motivated, inspiring transport changemaker can do.

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Risk-Taking, Rules and Death With Dan Garrett, Founder of Farewill

Founding a startup is hard, but itโ€™s even harder when youโ€™re dealing with the most painful and emotive moments in peoplesโ€™ lives.

Thatโ€™s what Dan Garrett decided to do when he created Farewill, now the countryโ€™s largest โ€œDeathtechโ€ firm.

His business enables peoples to self-serve themselves wills, as well as offering other services including probate and even cremation.

How do you move fast when youโ€™re dealing with something as important as death? How do you get the right balance between risk, rules and pace?

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Mini Holland and The Transformation of a London Suburb with Clyde Loakes

Mini Holland is the poster child for the transformation of an urban area.

As the first Low Traffic Neighbourhood of the modern era, council reps from across Britain (and Europe) have visited to learn lessons.

Not that I needed to travel far: it all happened in Walthamstow, where I live, and my kids were two of the many who benefited.

It was the vision of ๐——๐—ฒ๐—ฝ๐˜‚๐˜๐˜† ๐—Ÿ๐—ฒ๐—ฎ๐—ฑ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ ๐—ผ๐—ณ ๐—ช๐—ฎ๐—น๐˜๐—ต๐—ฎ๐—บ ๐—™๐—ผ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜ ๐—–๐—ผ๐˜‚๐—ป๐—ฐ๐—ถ๐—น ๐—–๐—น๐˜†๐—ฑ๐—ฒ ๐—Ÿ๐—ผ๐—ฎ๐—ธ๐—ฒ๐˜€, and he tells me the full inspirational story in todayโ€™s episode.

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Autonomous Public Transport with James Dick of RATP

Autonomous public transport has the potential to transform our cities.

One city that is taking the lead in experimenting with autonomous public transport is Paris, under the leadership of James Dick at RATP.

In todayโ€™s episode, he tells me just how close he believes they are to delivering autonomous buses out on the road, driverless and at scale.

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Gian-Mattia Schucan Ends Season 4 with a Vision of Seamless Travel

Gian-Mattia Schucan, ๐—ณ๐—ผ๐˜‚๐—ป๐—ฑ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ ๐—ผ๐—ณ ๐—™๐—ฎ๐—ถ๐—ฟ๐˜๐—ถ๐—พ, wants travelling by public transport to be effortless: no tickets, no gates, no stress. We talk about the journey from idea to reality, what operators really want from innovators and how to make change happen in public transport.

Iโ€™m sad to say that this is the last episode of Season 3 but, donโ€™t worry, Iโ€™ll be back with Season 4 in September.

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Jonny Mood on Value for Money

โ€œIt's fine when you're swinging big to have a few misses in a controlled environmentโ€ - ๐—๐—ผ๐—ป๐—ป๐˜† ๐— ๐—ผ๐—ผ๐—ฑ, ๐——๐—ถ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐—ฐ๐˜๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐—ผ๐—ณ ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐—ก๐—ฎ๐˜๐—ถ๐—ผ๐—ป๐—ฎ๐—น ๐—”๐˜‚๐—ฑ๐—ถ๐˜ ๐—ข๐—ณ๐—ณ๐—ถ๐—ฐ๐—ฒ making it very clear that itโ€™s fine for public sector organisations to try things and fail.

In todayโ€™s episode, I talk to Jonny about what value for money really means, why BCR is often misused and how the NAO supports innovation in the public sector.

Do take a listen to this one!

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Olly Glover MP on Innovation, Elections and Electrification

๐—ข๐—น๐—น๐˜† ๐—š๐—น๐—ผ๐˜ƒ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ ๐— ๐—ฃ went from rail consultant to MP in a political whirlwind. We talk innovation in legacy sectors, the chaos of becoming an MP overnight and the culture of Westminster.

Plus: why UK transport policy feels stuck, and how we could actually fix electrification

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Lars Strรถmgren on Creating a Cycling City

I spoke to Lars Strรถmgren, ๐—ฉ๐—ถ๐—ฐ๐—ฒ ๐— ๐—ฎ๐˜†๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐—ณ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐—ง๐—ฟ๐—ฎ๐—ป๐˜€๐—ฝ๐—ผ๐—ฟ๐˜ ๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ฑ ๐—จ๐—ฟ๐—ฏ๐—ฎ๐—ป ๐—˜๐—ป๐˜ƒ๐—ถ๐—ฟ๐—ผ๐—ป๐—บ๐—ฒ๐—ป๐˜, about the cityโ€™s journey from car-centricity to a cycling-friendly capital.

We talked about his childhood on the back of his grandmotherโ€™s bike, the cultural shifts that made cycling mainstream and the urban planning philosophy that underpins Stockholmโ€™s transformation - including how storytelling, kid-focused design and even building with wood all fit into a sustainable transport vision.

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Anjali Devadasan on Growing A Green Startup

My guest this week is Anjali Devadasan, ๐—™๐—ผ๐˜‚๐—ป๐—ฑ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ ๐—ผ๐—ณ ๐—ง๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐—ฒ๐˜ƒ๐—ฎ, a startup generating energy from passing vehicles and trains. Her turbines harness airflow to power local infrastructure like lighting and EV chargers.

We talked about the technology, the challenges of scaling, and her personal drive to tackle climate change, inspired by her familyโ€™s personal experience.

A truly inspirational conversation with someone whoโ€™s achieved incredible things very early in her career.

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